Over at the Internet Monk blog, there is an article posted today entitled: Mike Bird: N.T. Wright and Michael Kruger on Healthcare. It’s basically an article discussing healthcare ideas, bringing in the thoughts of 3 various theologians:
- Mike Bird – Australian Anglican, Lecturer in Theology at Ridley Melbourne College of Mission and Ministry
- N.T. Wright – British Anglican, Research Professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at St Mary’s College, University of St Andrews in Scotland
- Michael Kruger – American Reformed, I am President and Professor of New Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary
The gist of the Internet Monk article is this: Mike Bird critiques Michael Kruger’s challenges to N.T. Wright’s favorable thoughts toward social healthcare.
Read the article at Internet Monk and I think it will be clearer (it’s not a long post). But here is a summary:
Both Bird and Wright are proponents of social healthcare. Kruger challenges the idea of social healthcare via the government.
The comment that Kruger initially challenged is N.T. Wright’s own thoughts in a recent interview. The comment goes like this:
Well, what I’m doing is making a broad-brush point for readers. I’m not talking about Fox News in any detailed way and I’m not claiming that everything they tell you is wrong. I’m just referring to the well-known political viewpoint that comes through Fox News and I’m saying: We should be careful about listening to that point of view exclusively. There is a striking, radical polarization between your Left and Right that I have to say is really disturbing because it distorts so many issues. This Left-Right polarization forces people to say: We are all on this side now! We must check off every box on this slate! We must keep in line!
In your country, for example, there seem to be Christian political voices saying that you shouldn’t have a national healthcare system. To us, in Britain, this is virtually unthinkable. Every other developed country from Norway to New Zealand has healthcare for all of its citizens. We don’t understand all of this opposition to it over here in the U.S. And, we should remember: In the ancient world, there wasn’t any healthcare system. It was the Christians, very early on, who introduced the idea that we should care for people beyond the circle of our own kin. Christians taught that we should care for the poor and disadvantaged. Christians eventually organized hospitals. To hear people standing up in your political debate and saying—“If you are followers of Jesus, you must reject universal healthcare coverage!”—and that’s unthinkable to us. Those of us who are Christians in other parts of the world are saying: We can’t understand this political language. It’s not our value in our countries. It’s not even in keeping with traditional Christian teaching on caring for others. We can’t understand what we are hearing from some of your politicians on this point. Yet, over here, some Christians are saying that it’s part of the list of boxes we all should check off to keep in line.
Again, to summarize: Mike Bird, the Australian theologian, generally agrees with Wright, the British theologian. They believe government sanctioned healthcare is good. However, Michael Kruger, the American theologian, is generally opposed to social healthcare.
In all of this, I just wanted to share some brief thoughts, which you’ll find is based upon my comment on the article at Internet Monk. I tend to try and find some kind of middle ground. I believe the middle ground usually provides balance to some of the more extreme positions that can exist out there.
So just some thoughts:
Lo and behold, I am an American. However, I’ve lived in Europe for 8 and a half years – 3 years in the UK (2003-2006) and 5 and a half years in Belgium (2008-2013). These two stints in Europe are separated by a 2-year period back in the States (2006-2008). Also, my wife is British.
So I’ve been in close contact with people that value some kind of social healthcare and, in this time, I have learned a bit.
Here are just a few points I’d offer to the table of discussion.
1) How did the whole European social healthcare come about?
In discussion with another pastor friend of mine, a Canadian-American, who also resides in Belgium, he helpfully put summarized the history something like this:
Following the war, America returned home as the heroes with everything still intact. After the war, Europe was a land that had been greatly obliterated. Nothing much was intact. The people of Europe needed help – and who did they turn to? They asked the government to help. Hence, the formation of various social aspects of European society, including healthcare.
This, itself, can be quite enlightening of how things unfolded several decades ago and why there is somewhat of a divide between America and Europe. It’s just part of historical make-up of things.
2) Europe is not socialist, in its full-blown sense.
Many Americans tend to equate a socialist perspective as full-on communism. And, I suppose for some, the word communism can evoke memories of McCarthy, the Red Scare, and the Old Soviet Union. It may even evoke worse images for some Americans.
However, socialist-communism is not what exists in Europe. What does exist in Europe is that of a social democracy. These two are different. And, so, people still vote democratically on various issues, but they do look to the government to help organize many aspects, such as healthcare.
3) Every single “system” has it’s positives and negatives.
A capitalist, free-market economy is not inherently “God’s way.” But neither is social democracy. There are constructive aspects and challenges within each “system,” ebbs and flows where one perspective creates a positive in one area, but then also creates problems in another area. That’s reality in every “system.”
But what I think many of my American brothers and sisters need to guard against is the demonizing of one side or the other. That’s the emphasis I sense coming forth in N.T. Wright’s comments – the dreadful polarisation of the left and right political arena in America. It’s completely unhealthy (no pun intended in the discussion on healthcare).
You see, I come from the Bible-belt in America and there I find many folk demonizing social healthcare. The comments I’ve read over the past 1+ year on Facebook have been, at times, appalling. But the reality is simply this – social healthcare is not inherently evil. It has problems (again, just as the free-market does). But it’s not inherently evil. And I’d also remark to those who are in favor of social healthcare – they need to be careful in demonizing non-social healthcare as well.
Such polarization, demonization is childish at best. Outright repugnant at worst. We have a lot to learn from both sides.
But here is what I would take to challenge – a statement like this: “I want to challenge my American evangelicals friends to consider whether your views of healthcare are truly biblical.” This comes from Mike Bird’s post.
To quote another blogger – We, evangelicals, throw around the word biblical like it’s Martin Luther’s middle name.
However, this will create all sorts of problems when we actually look at what we find, or don’t find, in the pages of Scripture.
Now, caring for the poor is very important to God. But I think we must guard against our constant juxtaposition of the word biblical alongside other words like healthcare or economics or womanhood, etc. I’m not always looking to develop a “biblical” view on a particular issue, mainly because the Bible might not address that particular issue in any great detail. Of course, we consider what Scripture says about economics – and it emphasizes the care of the poor, as I’ve noted. It truly does! But, it does not detail how this all unfolds within a particular society. Christians look to care for the poor, but it also doesn’t disallow for Christians to ask the government to help with this as well. But neither does it mandate that we turn to the government to help with this.
There’s some gray areas here, folks. Things aren’t always black and white, though we wish it were.
Here’s a note of interest: My family and I are moving back to the States in just a few short weeks. So it will be interesting to see if and/or how we get reverse culture-shock readjusting to life in the US (at least for me, the American). But after a total of 8+ years in Europe, I’m personally quite open to social healthcare as something that can be helpful in caring for the poor.
Is it perfect? No. That I’ve noted continually. But, again, neither is the normal capitalistic perspective of America.
Neither of these is inherently “God’s way.” And neither is inherently “the devil’s way.” There are positives and negatives in both camps.
Lastly, as a side note: I cannot see where NT Wright is specifically advocating for the new Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”). Of course, his comments come in light of the rage that has come forth from many Americans in recent months. But I think Wright’s thoughts are simply in regards to some of the positive aspects of social healthcare in general, though I also note that Wright can tend to harp on some of the more right-wing, conservative polarizations that exist in America. It’s like claiming that most charismatics are crazy whackos with no substance! Oh wait, I think that’s already been done. 🙂 Continually emphasizing one extreme doesn’t open up healthy dialogue. However, there’s no doubt this extreme does exist in some unhealthy ways in America.
Also, I don’t know Wright, but I suppose he wouldn’t advocate intrusion upon someone’s religious ethics (i.e., mandated contraceptions) in the midst of establishing a social healthcare system. So I’m a bit confused when people charge Wright with supporting the specific plan known as Obamacare.
But, in the end, we must a) not close our ears to one another, b) not polarize ourselves so much and c) not demonize the varying approaches. We will accomplish zilch if we do this.
I hope these thoughts offer some food for thought.
Ugh! British theology, especially Anglicans like Maurice and even Gore, note too the later ABC William Temple (died 1944), took the Anglicans (as others) down this social gospel road! I will go with Sir Edmund Burke myself, the great ‘Father of Conservatism’!
“Conservatism is not so much a philosophy as an attitude, a constant force, performing a timeless function in the development of a free society, and corresponding to a deep and permanent requirement of human nature itself.”
And btw, Tom Wright is simply “wrong” most of the time on American politics in my opinion! I mean myself as a Brit living in the US for several years now, one simply must seek to get close to the American people and their culture, and not just speak from an ‘Ivory High Tower’ chair, as Wright. Note too, I have been doing Hospital chaplain work for several years now. And the Americans are hurting badly for the most part since Obama! The worst American president I have seen in my life-time, and I can remember seeing Dwight Eisenhower in the news movie reels (Ireland) in the 50’s as a young boy.
And I like FOX News myself, nothing perfect especially in this fallen world, but FOX at least shoots for being truthful & conservative!
I suppose an American who’s lived in Europe for 8+ years might have some crumbs to offer on the table. Or maybe not.
Well it quite depends upon the “crumbs”, and the life-experience? 😉 Also to me anyway, a man has to have aged some, before he begins to grasp much? But that is different for each one. Of course one of the worst things is being an old man or person, and not having learned much at all! Sadly it appears we have quite a few “boomers” in that category!