Charts To Explain Romans 11

Yesterday, I posted my final thoughts on what I believe about Israel now that the new covenant has come in Christ. I finished out by considering Paul’s words in Romans 11, a very debated passage.

I thought I would post two illustration charts that a friend of mine (Keith Gillmore) put together, which I believe helpfully explain the those difficult words of Romans 11.

Here they are below:

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7 thoughts on “Charts To Explain Romans 11

  1. Hi Alice. Thanks for the comment. I have not been able to read the 2 articles in depth, but I did browse them. My question would be whether those in the OT (especially in the time that Genesis records) had so much of an idea about ‘the Son of God’. They had some revelation, but that revelation was in seed form. It’s only as the revelation progresses in the OT writings that we get the idea that the Messiah would be the ‘Son’ of God.

    Anyways, thanks for the comment.

  2. Abraham’s people certainly didn’t have the perspective we have today – as witnesses that Jesus Christ has appeared in the flesh, the Son of God – but they had the ancient expectation of the Son of God’s appearing in the flesh. This ancient expectation came from what God promised in Genesis 3:15 – the Protevangelion.

    This makes sense to me because God, in HIS immense faithfulness, has raised up a witness to HIS Righteous Son in every generation. Just as an infant recognizes the parent and responds to that love, without intellectual knowledge, so humanity has had consciousness of the Father’s love for the Son, even before Jesus’ Incarnation. This is proof that the Son abides with the Father eternally and was with the Father “In the beginning” and through HIM all things were made.

    Keep up the great work with your blog!

  3. Hi Alice. Thanks again for the comment.

    I always loved this verse in John 8:56 – Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.

    So Abraham had some kind of revelation in his day. But I think it could possibly be a little too anachronistic to read a full theology of the ‘Son of God incarnate’ back into Gen 3:15 and Abraham’s understanding. Even those words in Gen 3:15 would not have registered as Messianic to Adam and Eve. They would have been thinking about one of their immediate sons or grandsons.

    Again, I believe things started as a seed and we really don’t read about any revelation of a ‘Son’ of God coming until maybe Daniel 7. We read Messianic prophecies in the OT (which are clearer in a retrospective manner now that we have the NT). But, just as the Trinity is not really that clear in Gen 1 or in the OT in general, so I am not sure a solid Christology about the Son of God incarnate is formed until Christ actually appears.

    I hope that makes sense.

  4. “They would have been thinking about one of their immediate sons or grandsons.”

    Very perceptive, Scott.

    My 30+ years of research on the kinship of Abraham’s people using the Genesis geneological information shows that they DID believe it would be one of their sons! That’s why the daughter of priests (such as Mary) only married priests or the sons of priests. The intermarriage between priestly lines begins in Genesis 4 and continues until the time of Jesus. After that, it can’t be documented.

    The lines of Cain and Seth intermarried. The lines of Ham and Shem intermarried, and the lines of Haran and Sheba intermarried. These are the ruler-priest ancestors of Abraham.

    John 8:56 – Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.

    Abraham received a tradition concerning the expectation of a Son of God, not necessarily “some kind of revelation.”

    You might want to read these short essays:

    http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2009/03/daughters-of-priests.html

    http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2009/04/marys-priestly-lineage.html

    http://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/2009/06/testimony-of-blessed-john-forerunner.html

    God bless you!

  5. Hey Scott, I’m coming upon this article many years after you’ve written it! The charts that you had shared to illustrate what you think is happening in Romans 11 are no longer loading. Would you be willing to update this so that they do?
    Thanks in advance and I look forward to reading through this series!

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